482nd FIS:

"He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help."
Abraham Lincoln

ICQ & Potpourri Mail - 2003

Informal or Partial Messages

Most recent first: more or less...

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Dec 24, 2003
David L. Bigelow

You tracked me down. Returned from SE Asia just in time for squadron deactivation. Was stationed at Goose Bay in the 59th FIS until end of '66. Got out and went to Continental Airlines in '67, was furloughed and went back in for another tour with the 82d FIS at Naha AFB, Okinawa. Went back to Continental in late '69, was based in Hawaii, and flew with the Hawaii Air National Guard.

Kamuela, HI 96743

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Dec 24, 2003
Richard Fairlamb

[Excerpted from Christmas message.] "As usual, I had intended to send Season's Greetings out to you much earlier - but this year it was interrupted by being present at the 100th Year Anniversary of Powered Flight Celebrations on the Outer Banks of North Carolina. I was there - standing on the exact ground where the Wright's performed their First Flight on the exact minute, 100 years' later."

[Oustanding! The 482nd had a representative there. Anyone else? What a powerful place that is. GCW]

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Dec 13, 2003
Douglas B. Cortright

Received your letter today and, yes, I served in the Air Force from 60-64. I was at Seymour Johnson in the 482nd FIS from 61-64. My enlistment ended in July 13, 1964. I was in F-102 Radar Maintenance as an Electronic Technician.

I think I have additional paperwork and will continue to search. Thank you for the letter.

Regards...Douglas B.Cortright, 50 Roxanne Blvd., Highland, NY 12528-2827

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Dec 12, 2003
Rodney L.Fitzpatrick

DAMN!

KeyWest - Cuban Missile Crisis, Boca Chica NAS. Honorable discharged Aug. 22, '66 as A1C. Worked for National Airlines. (1969--Merger PanAm Airways) till shut down on Dec 3rd, 1991; NorthWest (Jan '92 to June 92); and finally/presently American Airlines, Miami Based as acft mechanic (A & P). Hired by American June '92 to present.

I was 482nd FIS from about Jan '63 till discharge date. Presently 61 years old, and feeling it---no seniorty, and on Mids (10:30 p.m. till 7 a.m.).

Sincerely...R. L. Fitzpatrick, 3000 NW 112th Ave, Coral Springs, FL 33065-3548

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Dec 9, 2003
Harold J. Renninger, RR5, Box 5340, Towanda, PA, 18848

What a surprise to receive a letter from you about the 482nd as I had just visited Goldsboro this last January trying to revive old memories.

I served in the USAF from March 1960 until March 1964. I was assigned to the 482nd from March 1962 until my discharge. My AFCS was that of a draftsman/illustrator and worked in the Comptroller's office. I lived on Daisy Street with my first wife and oldest son. When I was there this past January, I did find the house and nothing had changed much.

Since my discharge I have spent my life as a police officer. First as a Pennsylvania State Trooper as an investigator and a crime scene processor. I retired in 1991 and had a private investigator license for a few years and then became the Chief County Detective for the local District Attorney. I retired from that position in August of 2001 and now spend the winter months in Florida.

I don't have a computer so am enclosing copies of some news articles which I have in a scrapbook. I hope you find some of the information in the articles to be helpful in your search. I would like to know about the reunion and also get some addresses of one or two individuals I was stationed with.

Harold

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Dec 6, 2003
Morton Rabinowitz

Hello George,

It was a shock to get a letter with the 482nd on it and addressed to "Rabbit." I've been moving around, finally settling in Sarasota, Florida. I would love to hear from you and others from the 482nd.

I will be in touch again in February when they will be finished building my house. I will send you some photos and old orders that I kept as soon as I can unpack.

Big Mort

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Dec 3, 2003
Ken Pounders

I was suprised to hear from someone about the 482nd. I worked in the radar shop. I was there in 1965 when it was deactivated. I transferred to Suffolk County Air Base in New York, with about 12 other people, and was discharged from there in 1968.

Worked at Gruman Aerospace for about two years and started college part time. Got out of the electronics field in 1970 and went to work at Nikon Inc. on Long Island. I finished my degree in accounting and for the next 20 years I worked in Nikon's Corporate headquarters.  

I got married in 1985 and have one stepson. In 1990 I took my retirement and left Nikon for sunny California. I now work for Hanson Aggregates PSW Inc. in their accounting department. My wife works for a local school district.  

It was good hearing from you and if I find any orders I'll send them along.

Kenneth R. Pounders, 9331 Northview Ter., Santee, CA 92071-6114

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Nov 17, 2003
Joseph F. Kopack

I was in the 482nd from March 1960 to June 1963. This was my first assignment after tech school. I was in the MG-10 radar shop. The memories I have will always be good for me. I married a girl from Goldsboro, have two sons and two wonderful granddaughters.

The memories from the 482nd are working very long hours to keep the MG-10 radar working, pulling guard duty on New Years day during the Cuba missile crisis (and getting caught watching the football games), F-102s launching with Gar-11 missiles (nuclear) to Florida during the Cuba missils crisis, and the wonderful people who trained me such as Dillis Brooks, Russell Cherry, H.A.(Hutch) Hutchings, Don Eggestein (great pizza parties), and Richard (Dick) Johnson.

After leaving the Air Force in 1963 I joined the South Carolina Air National Guard as a full technician until my retirement in 1997. My very good friend Dale Wallace followed the same path. He is now living in Warner Robins, GA.

George, thank you for the great web site. See you in Goldsboro, May 2004.

Joseph F. Kopack, 501 Pelham Dr., Apt. G208, Columbia, SC 29209

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Nov 9, 2003
George C. Willick

I'll try to reach some of you this way...the web page has been in trouble for several months now...brought on by an impending deadline issued by Microsoft to Java-script programmers that they (Microsoft) would no longer allow Java-Script to run over top of Windows. In other words, goodbye to some banners and pop-ups. Some of the host servers have been rewriting their code and have jerked me around in every way possible. Right now they are totally out of control and so error laden that I have no choice but to find a new home for the 482nd pages. Up theres, in other words.

Right now many of you are ping-ponging when you try to load a page. If you saw the code being added, often more than once, you'd understand what your computer is up against. Its trying to load five things at once, all demanding to be loaded in five seconds, otherwise they start over. Impossible. The idiots must be on dope.

I'm sorry. I'll get us to dry land asap. GCW

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Oct 17, 2003
Jim Sippel

I got your letter today and went directly to web site. I am having trouble getting the pictures & snapshots. I was in the 482nd from Jan 4, 1964, till it disbanded in '65. I was in Key West at Det #2 at the time and transferred to RGAFB with most everybody else there. I stayed in Key West untill Aug, '67 when my 4 yr. tour was over.  

I recently purchased a book about the F-102, since I started as a mechanic. It was from Schiffer Military History Books. A few pictures from 482nd...even one shot of the assembly of a group of planes that came to 482 brand new.

More later...please share info with me...Thanks
James (Jim) Sippel, P.O. Box 7172, Winter Haven, FL 33883 --- (863) 324-4020

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Oct 9, 2003
Robert W. Curtis

What a nice surprise your letter was. I have wondered all these years about what happened with the 482nd. Not having a computer but having a friend with such, I accessed your web site. What a nostalgia trip that was! I am looking forward to additions you will make in the future.

As you can see from my enclosures, I have ALL of my personal archives. Some of the copies will be mostly irrelevant for your needs but could evoke a laugh or two. Please use any of it as you see fit. Unfortunately, I have no official photos, just personal snapshots we were allowed during "show" days and such, so I will be unable to help in that area.

I found the list of squadron events quite interesting. being in the middle years (April 60 - June 63) I was in on President Kennedy's trip to Venezuela and our TDY to Puerto Rico, as well as Operation Southern Tip where we 'called' the 'Cuban War' threat. You will find copies of those orders enclosed. What an adrenalin time that was.

Don't know if you heard about one of our pilots making his landing approach loop, had a flame-out. Ejection got him down ok but Uncle Sam bought a turkey farm that day. Also in '62 SAC dropped a B-52 about 5-10 miles north of Goldsboro. All the crew was ok but what a mess. It came in pretty steep and we heard the engines were about 15 feet in the ground. AP's cordoned off real quick...also heard it carried a "big bomb."

Hope to make it to the 2004 reunion. My health will be a possible hindrance. Service time was very special for a small time boy like me and my only regret was not staying in. I would have retired with 30 years June 17, 1989. Take good care and keep in touch if you can.

Robert W. Curtis, 795 N Street, Gering NE 69341-3370

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Oct 6, 2003
Donald R. Drumm

Hi George,

Yes, I was in the USAF in the 482nd FIS at Seymour Johnson AFB in Sept. 60 to May 62. I had a 20 year career, retired in Dec. '76 as a MSGT.

I remember a few people, but don't know where they are.  Bruce Parker, Ralph Vaughn, Jack Holland, Willabee Rogers, CO. Weaver, 1st Shirt Nelson.

Left there and went to Alaska, later Vietnam, retired at Plattsburg, New York. How in the world did you ever get my phone number and age? Nice to hear from you! I enjoyed the Web Site.                                         

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Oct 4, 2003
Bobbie Guillory

I was in the 482nd from 1957 to 1960 in the Missile Shop. I was discharged in 1960 and came home to Alexandria, LA, and in 1961 I joined the Louisiana Air National Guard working as a full time tech in the 159th FIG missile section and stayed there, going to munitions, and retired as a Chief in 1996.

Bobbie Guillory, 3448 Louise St., Harvey, LA 70058-5458

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Sept 30, 2003
Kenneth Fore

Hi: Just a note to say you reached the right Kenneth Fore. I was in radar and stayed to the bitter end with Leland Crump to put the remaining stuff into the supply chain. Leland and I spent the 4 years together. The only thing I have in the way of documentation is my DD-214, the rest was thrown away 2 or 3 moves ago. Please send contact info on Leland if you can. Will write later with more data. K4

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Sept 17, 2003
Ralph Robledo

George, I can confirm that we found the right Charlie P. Blass. I visited his burial site this morning, saw his headstone, said a prayer from all of us, and got an excellent copy of his Obit from the funeral home. They must have all of the good copy machines. There was an additional Obit that confirmed that he was a 20 year retired Air Force  Technical Sergeant. Next time I stop by the burial site, I will take along my camera and get a picture for your files.

I am working on my trip to San Antonio next month, and I have a 482nd name at the National Cemetery there that I will look up. 

Robbie

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Sept 15, 2003
(longhand note with copies)

George,

I have a list of people who were stationed there in N.C. in 1960-62. John Nelson was my friend and 1st Sgt...I took his place a couple times so he could take a leave. I will make some copies of the names and mail to you ASAP.

My daughter, Dawn, was born there. She wants to visit her birth place.

Curtis H. Peacock and his wife came to Texas in June to visit us...we were stationed three places together. His address is 266 Lower River Rd., Eastman, GA 31023.

Hope this (enclosed orders) helps a little.

John C. Shirley, 4128 N. Summercrest Loop, Round Rock, TX 78681-1086 --- (512) 671-3464

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Sept 15, 2003
Leland Crump

Yes, I was in the 482nd and my address is correct. I have looked for a 482nd web page before and was unable to find one.

I have enclosed orders that show Fore, Hale, Hoogendoorn, Pounders, and myself where there until deactivation and took part in the dismantling and packing up of parts and pieces. We were all in radar and could be listed that way also.

I will write more when I have time. Am very busy now, having just retired the first of the year, and am doing all the things I never had time for before.

Leland

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Sept 13, 2003
Frank Kurzenhauser

My son forwarded a note from you concerning the 482nd FIS. I do not have copies of any orders from those days, but I did serve there from early February 1961 until April 13, 1964 when I was discharged. I server mostly under Lt. Colonel Carl Weaver and was in AWCS. I wondered how you knew my middle name 'Marsh' which was dropped when I was adopted in 1948 and my birthname 'Murnane' which was replaced with Kurzenhauser at the same time. I also noted that some names of my colleagues at that time were missing. Feel free to contact me but my memory of my bearly distinguishable service is getting very vague.

Frank Kurzenhauser

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Sept 9, 2003
Larry Endsley

Hey George,

I was at Goldsboro, NC, when it closed up and had been there nearly a year before that.

I was in the Com/Nav shop. T/Sgt Hasslebach was over the shop and SM/Sgt Drapeau was over it all. 

SM/Sgt Drapeau was my first encounter with the real military after basic training and tech school at Biloxi, Mississippi. On my way up that path to report to my first duty station the big bellied, black belt, stood in my way saying, "You must be the new recruit?" I replied that yes, I was just out of tech school, all ready for work. SM/Sgt Drapeau said, "Did they show you how to wash windows?" My first mistake was to tell him "Sgt., they didn't send me to school for a year to wash windows." He responded with, "Get your f---ing bucket and get to washing windows." I looked at the building and it just seemed to be covered with windows. I did windows for 2 weeks.

Later on, I was put on a missile loading team for the F-102's we had.

I was not married then -- got married on August 28, 1971. We have a boy, Eric, who is a VA nursing home Administrator in Missouri, and a daughter currently in Medical school in Charleston, SC, where she is to graduate next May.

Larry Endsley (age 62)

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Sept 9, 2003
Richard Travelstead

Any info out on the 04 reunion?

Also what do the different colors of the names mean?...[Red & Green]...Thanks

M/Sgt (Ret.). Class of 62-65 Key West

[Reunion info is posted on the front page. As soon as details arrive I will create a page for the 2004 Reunion. This is put on by 482nd members who reside in the Goldsboro area and they have their own way of doing things.

Well, GREEN means this website has had contact with this person or we're pretty sure this person is still alive. RED has no implied meaning, I use it to denote a link from a particular name to another on-site page, but I also use RED for emphasis...as in the vital statistic dates of our past commanders. GCW]

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From: Ed L. "Pete" Petersen

[Excerpted from an on-going conversation to find 482nd members.}

"VanDaele came to us from either Iceland or Greenland. We were never in the same flight, but to know "Yogi" was to like him. I've realized that the 482nd was a very harmonious unit. I can't recall any unhappy time while I was there. A tribute to Jim Thomas, Ed Smith, and Hervey Stockman."

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Sept 5, 2003
From: James L. Burchell

I was in the squadron in 1963-1965; came from Etain AB, France, 366th TAC Fighter Wing. I left Seymour in '65, went to Selfridge AFB, Michigan. Left there toward the end of '66 to Tan Son Nhut AB, Vietnam, to be in the 12th TAC Recon Squadron.

I live not far from Atlanta, GA, and work at the airport as an airline mechanic.

Keep in touch and take care...
James L. Burchell, 125 Northmill Pkwy, Stockbridge, GA 30281-4860

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Sept 4, 2003
From: Randy Carlan

George,

I received your email on the 482 F.I.S. today and was surprised, but very pleased. I did enjoy reading your articles and also seeing the pictures. I had almost forgotten about serving in the 482nd during the 1963 - 1964 period. I was an A/2C at the time serving in the Auto Pilot shop. I was part of the Key West Deployment during the Cuban crisis as well. After I was there about a year I was transferred to Spangdalhem, Germany, with the 82nd Tactical Fighter Wing with F105 aircraft. I stayed there until I was discharged as an A/1C in July of 1966.  

I never stayed in touch with anyone from the 482nd except one airman. His name was A/3C Roy Rogers and he was from small town in Georgia. I remembered him because of his unusual name and that he was a really nice guy. I haven't seen him since the early seventies.  

I currently live in Picayune, Ms. and am the manager of a shipyard in Louisiana. I am now 58 years old and have two children and four grand children. I remember Goldsboro as a nice place and enjoyed my time at Seymour Johnson. Thanks for the memories!

Wilton R. (Randy) Carlan Jr., 415 E. 4 Th. Ave., Picayune, Ms. 39466 --- (601) 798-2777

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August 29, 2003
From: Charles E. Rhye, 3820 Juniper Bay Rd., Conway, SC 29527

I was a member of the 482nd FIS from 1960 to 1964 and I went to the last reunion at Goldsboro. Please remind me of the next reunion so I can make it.

The only paper work relating to my stay at the 482nd are these three AF form 75s (enclosed). I hope you can use them in some way.

Thanks and stay in touch. Charles Rhye...ph 843-397-2097

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August 28, 2003
From: Andy De Cuzzi

Hi George

I received your letter on Monday and yes I had the privilege to be assigned to the 482nd FIS. I mailed a copy of my orders into and out of the 482nd to you this morning. The time period was May 25, 64 to Sep 17, 65. I also called two former members and told them about the web site. Their names are A2C C. L. (Chuck) Whitmore of Laurinburg, NC, and A2C William B. (Cully) Cullingford of Charlotte, NC.  

After the 482nd I was stationed at Selfridge AFB, Mich and Viet Nam. Got out in Sept 67 and went home to Greenville, NC . Attended my home town college, East Carolina Univ, Class of 72 and went back in 75 for accounting and became a CPA in 80. I work in the Waste Hauling Industry with Republic Services (GDS) in North Carolina. Need information on the next reunion and will be there if the creek don't raise.  

Andy De Cuzzi CPA, 111 Bradford Ct., Salisbury, NC 28146

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August 22, 2003
From: Bobby O. Banks

You need to correct information that you have...the letter actually went to my son. Which is good, since he got it to me. We live about 3 miles apart and he works for me. I do not have a phone# in my name. I am assuming that is how you located his name and address.   

MY ADDRESS:
Bobby O'Neil Banks, Sr., PO Box 285, Pollocksville, NC 28573    

I was in the 482nd. I went into service in 1961 and got out in 1965. My wife and I went to several reunions that were put together by Hatler Leslie. Shortly after he died, about reunion time (I think)...Tom put that together and we went. We have never heard any more about any reunions and didn't know that they had any more after this time. 

For the past 25 years, I have had a different wife from the one I had when I was in Goldsboro. I have a timber broker business and a woodyard. We buy and sell standing timber. Small loggers can bring trees to our woodyard.  We resell to large mills such as Weyerhaeuser.  

I was 64 in June. My wife isn't far behind. She is the one typing this. I don't do computers except to look at sports scores, etc. We like to hear Bluegrass Gospel music. We work and go to church...try to do work there. My mother is still living -- 88 years young. Maybe I can think of something else to say later. I will also send my address correction to Tom Sutton.

Sincerely...Bobby O. Banks

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August 20, 2003
From: William Bayman

George...Bill asked me to let you know why he hasn't been in contact. His lung cancer has worsened and he is just not up to doing anything. I print out and read his messages to him. He has very much enjoyed reminiscing about those great Air Force days. In fact, in a spare room, he has what we call "The Museum"; airplane plates, plaques, pictures, old flight suit, manuals, maps, etc. Our family and friends have teased him about it, but every man who enters the house wants to go look at it again.

Bill's oncologist has suggested hospice, but when he learned that meant giving up his experimental anti-cancer drug, he declared that would mean throwing in the towel and he wouldn't do that. He is not in pain, just extremely fatigued. None of this has affected his mental faculties nor his sense of humor.

Thank you for all the work you have done researching the 482nd. I'm certain it has meant as much to the other men as it has to Bill.

Yours truly,...Fran Bayman (Bill's wife)

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August 20, 2003
From: Jim Rhew

Hi George,

Yes, I am still traveling, where-ever the car points when I get in it. However, my wife passed away Mar 29 and haven't felt too much like running. I drive from here in Fla to N.C. quiet often. Just need someone to read the road map.

I hate to hear about Col. Thomas. He was a good man. Not sure I knew Maj. Stacy too well, as I was in missles, behind a fence.

I may get to the next reunion if I receive the particulars on it. Waiting to hear from you and will mark it on my calendar.

Have a luncheon date so got to run...Mandoman

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August 19, 2003
From: George J. Rickel, SMSgt. USAF (Ret.), PO Box 181, Westfield, WI 53964-0181

Hi George,  

I was in the 482nd from July 1959 to March 1962. I was in the Life Support Section in the Ops Building. My boss was Lt. Tomlinson. He was replaced by Nick Ranone. I went to William Tell in 1959. I also deployed to Homestead in early 1960 for more runway repairs. I was promoted to T/Sgt in June, 1960.  

In March, 1962, I was sent kicking and screaming for a four year tour at Hickam, AFB, Hawaii. My luck got worse. In 1965 I was forced to have a three year tour at Nellis AFB, Las Vegas, Nevada. From there it was Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, New Mexico from 1967 to 1969. Then...I got to spend July 1969 to July 1970 at DaNang, Vietnam. From there it was Peterson Field, Colorado. Then to K.I. Sawyer in Michigan (the State where I was born). I retired in January, 1973 as a SMSgt.  

The 482nd was my favorite outfit in a 22 year AF career. I hope this short history adds a little to your web site, which I think is fantastic.  

So I will keep surfing the web and enjoying all those memories.

Sincerely, "Rick"  

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July 25, 2003
From: James A. Cunningham

Clovis A. Cooper Jr. - His time of arrival is approximately the same as mine (Sept '62) from E'dorf Alaska. Time out was approx. March/Apr '65 PCS to Wright Pat, Oh. He is not on line, but is the one that put me looking for this site. We visit regularly...fish, yard sale, and sometimes vacation together. He was also in Ground Power.

Tom A. Dollar - We were roommates (Dollar, Cooper, and me). His HOR was West Jefferson, N.C. He arrived the same time as Cooper and I. He was still there when I left. Do not know if he PCS'd or got an early out due to the disban. He went to, and settled in, Waco, Tx. We have exchanged cards on and off over the years. Lost contact when he moved 7-8 yrs ago. Also Ground Power.

Joe A. Edens - Wife's name was Dot, she was from upstate Maine near the Canadian border. They had three kids, 2 girls and a boy. We used to baby sit for them to have a night out.

James S. Switzer - He was from southern Texas. Arrived about the same time as the rest of us, but left before. Do not recall where he went or exactly when. When he got out, went to Texas, joined the Texas Rangers and did Border Patrol. Was never able too gain contact with him.

Bobby O/G Banks -- I remember the initial to be "O". He was from a small town east of Goldsboro, N.C. He was also in Ground Power.

Jim Cunningham, 1825 Hwy 149, Palmyra TN, 37142

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July 14, 2003
From: Edward L. Petersen

Hi George,

I looked thru the officer list, and I have a couple names that I might be able to put a time frame on. George Myers came to the squadron about the time Pealer and Van Daele came in. George came as a 1st. Lt. and may have made Captain in '60 or '61. Bob Elder came in '59 about the same time as Ed Hubbard. They were both 1st. Lts. Elder  took my assignment to Alaska when I requested a delay, as my wife was due to have a baby (early '60) and they took me off the assignment rather than delay. Elder is living in Kerrville, Texas. I believe he separated upon return from Alaska. Cy Minett or McGraw could probably fill in the holes on him.

I hope this helps a bit. All is well here. Still doing some aircraft ferry work. It's still fun.

I'm enjoying your work. Thanks.

Pete

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July 5, 2003
From: Jimmy Rhodes

George, sorry I haven't answered you before now. The web site is great. Plan to see you in 04, along with Jim Dove... Appreciate you keeping me in the loop. Cheers,

Jim

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June 21, 2003
From: Ralph Robledo

I hope that you have not given up on finding former members. I spent 27 years in the USAF before retiring in 1981 here in Merced, CA. I belong to a few veterans organizations and I think that if we put some notices in their magazines, that we might be able to contact some of the guys. The AF sergeants association, the AF association, The DAV, The Retired Enlisted Association, and the AF Times...all have spaces for reunions. Another good website is Pats 'World of the F106 Delta Dart;" where a bunch of us former DEUCE guys went on to work on the F106. There is also a F101B Voodoo website where a bunch of guys went on to work after the DEUCE. Tell me what you think of these ideas. I will give you all the help that I can. I would like to locate Jim Hubbard, John Cummings, Jim Ackerman, Clyde Brown, Vannah Lisenby, AARON, and Dick Geier. (I hope that he is not deceased. He was from Phoenix, AZ, and not from Philadelphia, as noted on the biography page.) Also Luther Menifee, I saw him at Tyndall before I retired. I have a bunch of good stories about us.

Keep the faith...Ralph Robledo, 2075 Karen Ct., Merced, CA 95340-1718 - (209) 723-0637

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June 2, 2003
From: Harold T. Hinson

[Ed. Note: While working on updating the list of first responders during the Cuban Missile Crisis, Harold sent these thoughts that I feel should be included in the record. GCW]

I remember this time well...I was taking a class at the FTD in the mornings and working in the Electrical Shop in the afternoons. They came and took me out of class on that Monday morning-with instructions to go home and pack a bag, to tell my wife that I was going TDY for a month. We were instructed to be back at the flightline at noon. We left SJAFB and landed at Homestead that afternoon. There was no question as to the situation by the looks of the flight line...missiles, planes, tent cities, no B52's. Nothing official was given until we were told to gather in the day room for a speech by President Kennedy on that Monday evening. Thats when we found out with the rest of the world about the missiles in Cuba. We worked 12 hour shifts and more. Mine was from 12 midnight to 12 noon. The chow halls were always full to capacity....I had breakfast for 42 days. Went by the chow hall at lunch and filled my field jacket with fruit, was too tired to wait in the chow lines.

Harold

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May 31, 2003
From: Edwin L. Hubbard

Sorry I am so late responding to your e-mail. Enjoyed the web page and have a lot to add, but can't type.

Prior to the Cuban Missile Crisis, SAC deployed from Homestead due to runway construction. We moved into their Alert Palace. It was there that Gene Hayes and I got scrambled on the first airliner hijacked to Cuba. I was the "bridesmaid" but Gene escorted them right into Havana. He had to recover at Key West for fuel while I went back to Homestead. Everyone was bombarding me with questions, but I didn't know squat 'til I talked to Gene.

When they closed the Homestead runway completely we moved the birds to Miami Int. but continued to live on base. We pulled alert on the taxiway...sitting out there in our orange goatskins, waving to the folks on the airliners. The town treated us great and we didn't have to pay for drinks, write-ups in the paper, scuba lessons at the Fontainbleu, and the General's Sport-fishing boat for $10 fishing trips. With the Wing deployed we owned the base! We intercepted boats with wall to wall people on 'em, forced a Cuban A.F. 172 with a defecting pilot into Marathon, and had an all around good time.

I left in Oct '61 for Soesterberg but have a lot more stories. This is about one year's typing for me so don't hold your breath waiting for the next hunt and peck missive!! I feel about E-mail like you do about phones.

Cheers, Hub

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May 17, 2003
From: Glenn C. Mitchell

I wrote to you a while back telling you of my existence and that I may have old orders. Well, as luck would have it, we moved about five years ago and it appears that the orders didn't. However, I've looked over your rosters and I remember a few names of people that I knew or worked with. Here goes-  

SM/Sgt CHILTON, Earl Jr., replaced M/Sgt Paris as 1st Sgt., Aug '64, [ ? - Dec '64+]
Earl Chilton retired to Bowling Green, Va. and became manager of the ABC Store there. His wife was a distant cousin of mine and his children were friends of my step-sons.

M/Sgt FRYE, Lacy V., AF14366920, [ ? - Aug '65+]
A/2C ALLEN, Norris R., AF12691745, [appears by Aug 6, '64 - deactivation]
A/2C LOONEY, Luther A., AF17642345, [appears by Aug 6, '64 - Apr '65+]
A/2C MOSES, Richard J., AF16762238, [appears by Aug 6, '64 - Apr '65+]
The four men above worked in the radar shop with me. All of us were assigned to Richards-Gebaur AFB, Kansas City, about the time of deactivation (Sept. 65').

I outlasted the 102's at RGAFB and ended up with what was left of the fleet (about 100 planes) at Perrin AFB, TX. My last assignment was training personnel from Greece and Turkey on the MG-10 (radar) system. This was nearly impossible because of the technical nature of the subject and the language barrier. I was discharged at Perrin as a Sgt. E-4 on 2 Apr 68 after exactly 4 years of service. I returned to my home town of Richmond, Va. and became a firefighter. I retired from the Fire Dept. as a captain and moved to Florida 5 years ago.

Glenn C. Mitchell (A/2C on  your roster)

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May 16, 2003
From: William S. Piper

George:

I ran across your web site and found it to be interesting. I was assigned to the 482nd in 1958 and departed in 1959. My tour began about the time that the squadron was TDY to Oceana NAS and there is where I checked out in the 102. I was there the day that Lemcke has his coronary occlusion and died. No one would have believed that he was the one who died because he was a good athlete having been an All American at Colgate. My flight commander was "Dad" Ingalls and I came about the same time as John Baker, Bob Joiner, Harold VanDaele, and Jimmy P. Rhodes.    

I ran into Bob Stonestreet, Jack Jeangerard, and Vince Stacy at the 50th reunion of the AF in Las Vegas back in 1997. We were there for a F-86 Sabre Pilots Ass'n. reunion which was held at the same time as the 50th celebration at Nellis.

In the past, I have conversed with Pete Petersen, Howard McWhorter, and John Flagg. I remember people that you name in the history (in addition to the ones that I've mentioned) like; Pealer, Wilson, Stockman, Smith, Lemcke, Moore, Myers, Carrieres, McGraw, Tomlinson, Paladino, Fletcher, Wiedman, Bayman, Olson, Bob Grice, Ranone, and a number of others. There was a SMSgt. there by the name of Robbins. He passed away in Corpus Christi a number of years ago.

I didn't make the AF a career. I stayed in for 8 years and joined the airline industry and flew for Braniff, Piedmont and USAirways until I retired in 1995. I lived in Dallas, TX for 35 years and now live south of Valdosta, GA just across the FL.

Best Wishes, Bill Piper

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May 3, 2003
From: Tony Brunner

I received your e-mail and this evening I found the website. I've been looking around in it and Find it very interesting. I now realize how poor my memory is. I did recognize a few faces but not sure of the names. I'm pretty sure the second guy from the left in the "barracks party" picture is last name SMITH. The only Smith I find in my old orders, is Franklin D. Smith. We always called him Smitty so I just can't remember if Franklin is his first name.

I do know that Lawrence (Larry) D. Schneider AF17559633 passed away several years ago. I learned that from Howard Heskett AF17565300. I have his address someplace but will have to look.

I have copies of orders for a number of relocations, TDY's, discharges and such things as authorization to install drag chutes. I have several copies of most of them. If you would like a copy, just let me know. I'm sure I have some photos but I can't find my old album since we moved a month ago. I'm sure I'll find it soon.

I was in the 482nd from fall of 1960 until January 1964. I was with a group that all transfered from the 332nd at England AFB in Alexandria La.

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Sat, Apr 12, 2003

Hey,

I'm Glenn Mitchell, AF13813398, 32251F (radar shop). I stumbled onto your website while looking for pix of F-102's. I may have old orders of my assignment to the 482nd and my next assignment to Richards Gabour. Please respond that this is an active site, and I will try to contribute! Thanks...

Glenn C. Mitchell, 18 Cliffside Drive, Ormond Beach, FL 32174

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Apr 7, 2003
From: Harold T. Hinson

Thanks for the web site...I am Harold Thomas Hinson Sr. I was assigned to the 482 from Oct '62 until March '65. Found all my orders this weekend and will be making copies for you. Joe Booher is dec'd 1978.

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Mar 31, 2003
From: Mike Braddock

Received your letter and, yes, I was in the 482nd. Arrived in Aug. 1961 and was discharged from the Key West detachment Oct 1964.

I'm in connect with two others who were in at the same time. There names are Donald Pendergraft and Roger Ray. If you need more info let me know.

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Mar 26 2003
From: Ray Robitaille

I received your letter a few weeks ago and I'm sorry its taken me so long to respond. I was in the 482nd FIS from April of 1962 until deactivation. I was discharged from Boca Chica NAS in Nov. '65. I want to thank you for contacting me as it brought back a lot of great memories.

I'm looking for a picture of myself standing by the F-102 that Capt. Rose went down in off of Key West one night after we scrambled him on an unknown aircraft. Capt. Rose was one of the nicest pilots in the squadron. When I find it I'll send you a copy.

I can't tell you what it meant to me seeing the alert facilities and the pilots that I had the honor to serve with. As you can tell, I don't have a lot of experience on a computer so please excuse the mistakes. I spent more time at Homestead AFB and Boca Chica NAS than I did Seymour Johnson AFB due to the Cuban crisis.

God bless our troops over seas and I hope it's a short war...Ray.

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Mar 21, 2003
From F. A. "Earl" Erlewein

I was in the 482nd from about April '61 until October '62. Worked in the storage area we shared with SAC and TAC. (SAC had a corner of TAC's, and we had a corner of SAC's.) Also ran the breakout crews for max effort from the missile building down by the flight line. Then off to Okinawa. Had a lot of augmentees for the breakout crews. Jon Hall, from around Paducah, Kentucky, and Steve Pursley come to mind. Somewhere I've got (or had) the old breakout plan with crew names. I'll have to look in the old trunk. It used to be a lot of fun to ease up to a load crew and make sounds like "Snubbing Air" coming off the bird. Never knew "Load Toads" could move so fast. Didn't enjoy removing the grease pencil marks they "accidentally left" on the weapons though. Oh well, Guess it all evened out.

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Mar 19, 2003
From Col. Carl T. Weaver

I am including the few pictures I could find of my tour with the 482nd. Excellent fighter squadron! Was when I arrived and I think it was the same when I left. CMSgts Sutton and Webster were the sharpest in that grade that I saw in my career. Fine men!

I remember Les Conwell...very calm, cool, and collected, and good at his job. He saved a T-33 one night after engine failure on x-country. Landed it without power at Lake Charles, LA. Excellent job!!

Gene Hayes's contributions to getting the North Carolina city names on the deuces was outstanding. He received an award for a great job!

Capt. Paul Miller ran the personnel shop, etc, along with MSgt Nelson. Both were highly qualified and productive. Nelson was 1st Sgt.

Capt. Bob Joiner was the only 482nd pilot to reach 25 missions during the deployment to Homestead during the Cuban Crisis. He was awarded the Air Medal. Good officer, good pilot, good man!!!

As I recall, the figures you are using of three aircraft lost in 1962 are in error. Col. Conwell is exactly right. The 482nd did not have any crashes in 1962. Additionally, there were no crashes in 1961 to my knowledge. In 1963 we had one crash just before my departure to a new assignment in tactical evaluation in Colorado Springs. The cause of that one was flameout and unable to get air start. The mission was snap-up maneuvers with the target at 50,000 feet. This practice was cancelled very shortly thereafter. The pilot was uninjured after his bailout. I will send more information when it is available.

[Ed. Note: Col. Weaver has been in touch for a while, but is using his daughter's computer, as opportunity allows. The last paragraph above is a response to a query by me in reference to the three 1962 crashes charged against the 482nd in Wayne Mutza's book Convair F-102. Les Conwell was the first to take exception. At this point, the 1963 crash Col. Weaver refers to above appears to be missing from the list. I've contacted Mr. Mutza and hopefully he can review the list and possibly help clear the record. We'll let you know how its going from time to time on both the aircraft and timeline pages. GCW]

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Mar 15, 2003
From: Dennis Brogan

You've reached the right person. I was elated to get your letter. I have checked out the 482nd website, and I am in awe of all that is there. I am sorry to say that most of my records and pictures were stolen out of my car in the early 80's, so anything I can contribute has to come from memory.

I was assigned to the 482nd from (approx.) Nov 1959 - Aug 1962. I was an A/2C promoted to A/1C during that time. When I started, I was a 'Radio Operator,' cross training into 'Flight Line Mechanic.' I eventually became the crew chief on F-102, 57-0828. Later, they broke out the AFSC 325X0 (Automatic Flight Control Systems) from the Fire Control Systems (RADAR) career field and I, once again, cross-trained. My time with the 482nd was a very rewarding time in my life and I had the distinct honor of being selected SJAFB's "Airman Of The Year" for 1960. (I think the first time that the base offered the program.) I haven't seen anything on the website about "Myrtle Beach Deployment", circa April, 1960. I am going to give you some names that may help, that I didn't see on the website; (T/Sgt or M/Sgt Billy F. Athey - Flight Line Flight Chief), (S/Sgt Robert R. Dunn - crew chief of TF-102, 56-2350), (T/Mgt or M/Sgt James T. Sherrill - AFCS Supervisor.)

Now, George, I'm getting a little "fried" from trying to recall, but I thought of one other thing. Do you have access to an "old" microfiche machine? [As a matter of fact, I own one. GCW] The reason I ask is that I have my records that may have a lot of info but I don't know for sure what is there and I don't have access to a machine. Gotta go for now, let me know that you got this.

With great appreciation...Dennis C. Brogan, AF26809716, MSgt (Ret), USAF

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Feb 26, 2003
From Roy Bayne

I received your letter today and there are some names on your list that I don't recognize, but it has been 46 years since I was there. I guess I was one of the first ones assigned to the 482nd. I roomed with Paul Zick mostly. We were in the same shop. I did most of the parts ordering for the engine shop. Tom Anderson was also in the group from Andrews but I can't remember the rest. When we were shipped down to SMJ AFB we had over a year to go on our enlistments but didn't stay that long when they came up with the early-out, which I took. I was discharged Nov 1, 1957.

I reenlisted then the next June and stayed in 'til June of 64, spending most of my time at Offutt air base in Nebraska. I still kept working on aircraft...28 1/2 years for American Airlines, then retired. I can't believe it has been 46 years since I first went to SMJ AFB.

Let me know more about the reunion.

Roy

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Feb 18, 2003
From Henry J. Miehle

Hi George

The web site was sent to me by Dick Travelstead. I was assigned to the engine shop on Sept 1962 and left in 64 to Key West as permanent party. Some of the folks who I can remember was Thomas, Haffel, John Julius, and a fellow by the name of Joe Holmes. Willie B Rogers was the NCOIC when I arrived there and then TSgt Lybrand took over. I retired in 1988 from active duty, left the hard work on the flight line to fly the C-130 and spend long hrs in a hard seat.

"I'll try and get further info if I can find it. I know my ex-spouse has some pictures of the alert facility at Key West. I'll have to sweet talk her out of them.

Hank Miehle, MSgt USAF Ret.

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Feb 16, 2003
From James W. Day

Hi George,
I found your site while surfing the net during a winter storm. I was a member of the 482 FIS 1956-58. I see you have me listed as deceased in the 1958 group of TSGT. My wife thinks I am deceased sometimes but I really am alive. I remember most of the original group of squadron members that were there when the unit received the aircraft. I can remember towing the aircraft with a standard farm field tractor. Never do anything like that in the modern Air Force. I left the Air Force at S-J in 1958 after 10 years service. Went to work with Convair on the F-106 program as a Field Service Engineer for 19 years. Left Convair and worked for the Air National Guard for a short time before working at HQ TAC as manager of the Engineering Technical Services program. Retired in 1993 in Hampton, VA and am enjoying golf and any other none work thing I can find. Haven't made a reunion for several years but will try and make next year. Have a lot of wonderful memories about great people that were in the unit. I may find some old Special Orders with names of people assigned to the unit in 1956/57.

Jim Day

[I went looking to find out how I marked Jim deceased...can't find the specific source. But on my deceased list beside his name is listed "cancer" which tells me its data I acquired from another list at some point. When I tried to confirm, there were just too many James W. Days. I've had a couple wrong obituaries...Jim is my first resurrection...ha, we GAINED ONE! GCW]

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Feb 15, 2003
From Ben J. Williams

A long time friend of mine, SMSgt Dorrance E. Hazard Ret. received a letter from you several months ago. We both retired from civilian jobs in 1996. Hazard retired from a job in California and I retired here in Arizona. After more than 32 years, we now live only three miles apart. Recently he shared a copy of your letter with me. I tried numerous times, without success, to log into the web site. Finally, with the help of Ret. SMSgt Charles L. Skipper, I am able to get in.

I came to the 482nd from the 332nd FIS in Sept 1960 and departed in July 1964. I spent 4 years with the Air Weather Service in Japan, and ended up in TAC at Luke AFB, AZ, for two years. I did two more TAC years at Myrtle Beach AFB, SC (six months as 1st Sgt). From the Beach, I went to the Air University at Maxwell/Gunther Alabama. There I was one of ten instructors who developed and taught the first classes of the Senior Non-Commissioned Officers Academy. We were called faculty Advisers. I retired at the Academy 1 Aug 1974.

It really felt good being able to recognize names of so many of the officers and airmen on the three rosters. I was truly impressed by the many letters and photographs you have acquired. One in particular was \Photos\Promotions. The individual standing to my left and marked UNK in the caption is H. A. Hutchings. He was promoted to M/Sgt that day.

I am sending you copies of two documents that are very dear to me. These documents still make my shoulders push back when I read them. One is a letter of appreciation dated 30 Novemeber 1962, "To the Officers and Men of the ADC Fighter Task Force" and signed by Colonel John S. Stewart, who was the initial Task Force Commander of what was called Project Southern Tip during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The other letter dated 30 July 1963, "To: All Personnel" and signed by Lt. Colonel Carl T. Weaver Jr, upon his departure for duty at headquarters ADC.

I have not seen any reference to A1C/Sgt Harry Ross who worked for Big Radford in supply. He was there when I arrived in 1960 and there when I left in 1964. Don't forget to post me in green.

Benj. J. Williams Jr., SM Ret.

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Feb 12, 2003
From Col. Hervey Stockman

    [ASIDE: Col Stockman suffers from visual problems, uses a character enlarger to read, and does not own a computer. Writes letters in longhand. I send him letters with enlarged characters. And through those circumstances, our communications are not altogether quotable and are often personal and cryptic. However, the following needs to be published due to a wide-spread historical error. GCW]

I've looked at your piece on me and made a vital correction. My middle name is Studdiford, the surname of my uncle Hervey Studdiford. Where the hell Studdie came from I don't know.

Among the awards and decorations, the Bronze Star should read OLC (oak leaf cluster). I'm not savvy on decorations but know one NEVER claims more than was awarded. The whole awards problem suddenly exploded after WWII. Not a healthy trend and one good folks are not proud of.

We love your letters, Herv and Sally

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Feb 9, 2003
From Sidney Stayler

Hi George,

Enjoyed your web page on the 482nd very much. A lot of names I recognized. Could not put faces to names. Someplace in my house I have the 57 year book but damned if I can find it. One of these days it will turn up.

To help you out on one of our officers, Major Batie. He was on flying status. After the l957 Airshow he was telling me that he damn near bought the farm. He was doing four point rolls, turned on his back, and when he went to climb he pushed the stick the wrong way and almost ended up on the ground. Also Lt Sims. He was the Unit Administration Officer when I was there. He and I went TDY to Andrews to learn about morning reports. I have looked through all may old orders and I could not find any names from the 482nd. Most of the orders had me only on them.

There is one person I have wondered about, That is MSgt Moeller. He was the personnel Sgt Major When I checked in and he was still there when I left. I remember that at one time in his life he had polio. He was always somewhat stooped and had a hard time getting up and down in his chair.

You mentioned gnats. Those damn little bugs that give you pink eye. Let me tell you a story about those pesky little buggers. I can't remember the names of the roads but to get to my quarters you went out the main gate into Goldsboro turned left about two miles then north, I think it was highway 102. Wouldn't bet any money on that. Anyway a MSgt Reynolds and his family lived across the street from us (he was in the 4th Maintenance Squadron) and we become friends. They lived in a trailer. In the summer of '57 he built a house further west. Nice three bedroom, covered with green asbestos shingles. He decided to paint the wood trim white and I volunteered to help him. We started early on a Saturday morning and finish as much as we could before it got too hot. We put on the primer and when we finished that the south side of the house was dry enough to paint, so paint we did. We were lucky enough to do the whole job in one day. After we finished we stepped back to admire our work...yep, you guessed it. The entire south side of the wood trim was completely covered in gnats. It was no longer white...it was black. So we waited for a cool day, sanded the trim down, and redid the whole south side.

I have finished my computer room. Looks pretty good if I do say so myself. My daughter said for an 79 year old fart it doesn't look bad. I put up shelves on three walls and placed all my plaques and certificates I received from the service, civil service, and my Lions club. Also I have all my golf balls displayed. The ones from courses I have played (Logo only) are in one rack and the Logo Balls that friends have given me are in another rack. Also, all my Golf Trophys (two) are in this room.

Think I have jabbered enough. Don't forget to let me know when the next reunion is to take place. Sid

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Feb 3, 2003
From Jack Boyd Bristol
CMSgt, USAF (Retired)

Thanks for the letter. We just missed each other. I really enjoyed my tour with the 482nd. I was there from Aug. 1960 to Dec. 1963.

After I left Langley AFB, Va., I went to the 23rd TAC Ftr. Wing as the Senior Enlisted Advisor to the "Flying Tigers" for five years, from there to 9th AF HQs at Shaw AFB, SC, as Deputy Director of Administration. After two years at Shaw I retired and settled here in Pittsboro, NC.

I worked in a convenience store for seven years and with Carolina Builders in Raleigh, NC, for seven years. Started drawing Social Security in 2001. Not doing anything now...spend a lot of time at our place at Holden Beach and really enjoy retirement.

[Enclosure: five photos and data pages.] These are the only photos I have. The couple is Jim & Peggy Mooring. Jim worked in the Orderly Room. The awards presentation photo is me and Col Halliwell. The photo with the flags is a Promotion photo with Col. Weaver, with Bill Stitcher and myself...I can't remember the guys on the front row. the group picture with the F-102 is all the maintenance guys. The color photo is me (after I grew up) with General Piotrowski at his Order of the Sword.

62 Brown Street, Pittsboro, NC, 27312 - (919) 542-1577

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Feb 2, 2003
From John B. Sutton

I was a member of the 482nd FIS from June 1963 through deactivation...SSgt, AF14550544, Tech Supply Section. Retired at Hq Tac. Langley AFB, Va., on 1 Jan 1975 as a MSgt.

I live at Fairfield, Montana. Will try to dig out more info later. Keep in touch.

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Jan 7, 2003
From George C.

Before I forget this...again...I put the following five names, from my 482nd time period, on this year's Mars Lander's microchip:

      Roy B. Caviness
      Rexford L. Moore
      Dafford W. Myers
      John L. Paladino
      Carroll E. Pealer

They would really dig that if they were here.

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Jan 7, 2003
Rollin Baker

Received your letter last week and found the web page to be very interesting.

I arrived in the 482d in March 1962 as an A1C and worked in the tool crib section of Material Control. I made SSgt on Oct 1 and was in Homestead 3 weeks later.

My friend Charles "Shorty" Boaze joined me a few days later. Sleeping accomodations were very tight and we ended up sharing the same bunk. Shorty was working the 12 hour day shift and I had the 12 hour night shift. We said the sheets never got cold. I remember that the 482d took over the SAC alert facilities after they pulled the B52s out and the meals in the facility were a lot better than the mess hall.

I went back to Homestead in Feb 63 for about 75 days. During this time they were moving in a F104 Squadron and we were preparing to close up our detachment. I think the 104s came from Webb AFB.

After returning to SJ, I was assigned to the missile section in the supply section and remained there until the deactivation. I guess I was one of the few remaining as I had to stay there until all the missles were gone. I remember equipment going to Vermont, South Carolina, and Connecticut.

I have a clipping from the Goldsboro newspaper about the deactivation and will send you a copy if you want it.

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Jan 2, 2003 : Enclosure : Photo of Capt. Schaumberg as a West Point Cadet

Dear Mr. Willick,

I was pleased to get your letter and no problem to send the picture. It happened that my granddaughter and her mother were here from Florida and had it done for me. They were here for a week and of course it was great - however I've been resting since they left! They kept me busy.

I am soon to be 96 but still drive my old car - not far, but to get groceries, to the Beauty Shop, to church, and to play bridge.

Oh yes, the Schaumberg Ice Arena was named for my husband - was nice it was done while he was still alive.

Sincerely...Tollie Schaumberg, Bismarck, ND

ED NOTE - November 2009. Tollie is still alive and beautiful at age 102. Can't find a larger print of the photo below to prove it. GCW


Tollie Schaumberg

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